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I gave the opening keynote talk to two fascinating conferences this week organized by State Department, which sought to take stock of what might be called the "hearts and minds" part of the struggle against al-Qaeda and associated movements.  Since the events were off the record, I really can't talk about the deliberations themselves, unfortunately, or even who was there. But, with the permission of the organizers, I thought it might be interesting to just put out there my own overall sense of the good news and the bad news, and to pose ten big questions which deserve some serious thought.  (And sorry, I'm not going to go back in and insert links right now.. I'm exhausted enough.)

 First, the good news.  I think that Obama's initial approach has been outstanding, reframing America's relationship with the Muslim world around a broader lens than terrorism.  His personal public diplomacy has achieved its initial goal:  a fresh start, a new conceptual frame, and a serious engagement based on "mutual respect and mutual interests."   His approach resolutely undermines al-Qaeda's efforts to impose a binary "West vs Islam" clash of civilizations narrative, and very effectively disaggregates the problem and marginalizes al-Qaeda. He also has taken seriously the political grievances which make the al-Qaeda narrative attractive to average Arabs and Muslims who don't share its radical ideology-- pledging withdrawal from Iraq, promising to close Guantanamo, engaging on the Israeli-Palestinian front.

 And this has paid off in the real world.  As I've argued several times recently, al-Qaeda is more marginal than it has been since 9/11 (at least in the Arab world -- this may be different in South Asia or Europe, where I pay less close attention). It has simply lost its ability to present itself as the avatar of generic resistance.  Al-Qaeda thrives on, indeed requires, a polarized environment in which its radical strategy represents one side of an all-consuming clash of civilizations.  Much of the Bush administration's approach to the "GWOT" gave it just what it needed;  it got better towards the end of his second term, and Obama has built upon and greatly accelerated the progress. 

 It's worth remembering that mostly, they did it to themselves (with some help from their adversaries, of course).  They haven't carried out the big attacks on the U.S., thankfully.  What their affiliates could do were local "soft target" attacks in Arab countries which killed Muslims and deeply alienated mainstream Arabs who might have thrilled to attacks on U.S. troops occupying Iraq.  It now faces an almost universally hostile Arab mass media and a daunting gallery of enemies -- not just America's allied governments but also the Muslim Brotherhood, Hamas, Hezbollah, and more.  Internal critiques of its tactics are everywhere, and magnified by this hostile Arab media, while the movement itself grew more doctrinally pure. Its videos get little traction and have little impact on Arab public debate.  Its like-minded movements have failed to gain a foothold in Gaza and Lebanon, and it continues to suffer the effects of their strategy in Iraq.  And at the ideological level, Yusuf al-Qaradawi's declaration of its ideology as a mad declaration of war on the whole world has resonated. 

 This strong beginning and reoriented conceptual framework is a big part of my continuing "A-" grade for his overall foreign policy performance. 

 But there's less good news as well.  Al-Qaeda is resilient and adaptive, and even if its ideology is unpopular it still offers a potent and compelling narrative.  Bin Laden's address last month was far better crafted and resonated more widely than most recent AQ productions. The ideology has spread far enough and has matured enough that it may no longer need AQ Central for direction.  It may have failed to gain a foothold in Lebanon or Gaza, but the fact that those who share its ideology tried shows that the mobilized base is still out there searching. Yemen's descent into multiple wars has created broken space within which the previously struggling al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula could reconstitute.  The general spirit of resistance (muqawima) is strong and growing at the popular level -- and, as more moderate Islamist competitors struggle with regime repression and democratic doors close, openings might be found to siphon off recruits, funds, or support. 

 And Obama's window is closing.  Arab audiences see Guantanamo still open (including in an endlessly repeating al-Jazeera promo), US troops escalating in Afghanistan, Gaza still blockaded, and no settlement freeze or peace talks between Israel and the Palestinians.  They have seen little follow-up on the ground on the Cairo address (regardless of what's been cooking secretly in Washington).  A narrative is clearly hardening that Obama has not delivered on his promises, and that he hasn't really changed American policies despite his personal appeal.  U.S. officials may complain that this is unfair, that it's only been four months since Cairo, that they are preparing a lot of programs... but the world isn't fair.  This window isn't closed yet, but it's closing fast and opinions appear to be hardening.   I don't think that the risk here is that al-Qaeda will take advantage of it, given its weakened state -- in fact, Secretary Gates made an uncharacteristic mistake when he lapsed back to the Bush-era argument that we had to win in Afghanistan because otherwise al-Qaeda would capitalize.  It's more that the mobilized Arab and Muslim publics which Obama hoped to win over will be lost. 

 So with that background, here are ten questions worth thinking about for those interested in these issues, especially professionals in the area. I'm not including a number of more specifically focused points about strategic communications and public engagement which I'm writing about elsewhere.

  1. What replaces the GWOT?  There is not yet a clear intellectual frame to replace the unmourned Global War on Terror.  I find myself often saying "what used to be called the GWOT."  If it isn't GWOT, what is it? "Combatting Violent Extremism (CVE)", which appears to still be the term of art, is better -- but also enormously flexible, in a bad way.  If CVE includes everything from COIN in Afghanistan to after-school programs in Birmingham, it just might be too broad.  And if that mission is defined by CVE, then isn't this just the old GWOT under a new name?  The Obama administration's conception of global engagement clearly wants to escape this trap -- helping to promote entrepreneurship, civil society, education economic change, and so on in order to build a new relationship between Muslim populataions and America rather than because it will fight terrorism.  But this is slippery, since the national security justification often ultimately comes back to terrorism, violent extremism, and those old categories.  So I can see how USAID, for instance, can pitch what it is doing as a contribution to CVE.  But what then is not CVE? 
  2. What does the definition of CVE mean for the “whole of government” approach which is all the rage these days?  Everyone these days wants to see development agencies, domestic agencies, intelligence, public diplomacy, the State Department, the military and everyone else all integrated into a coherent whole of government approach to problems.   But who defines the mission?  Since budgets seem likely to remain skewed sharply in the Pentagon's favor for the forseeable future, that isn't hard to guess.  So is this just pressing other agencies into the service of a mission defined by the Pentagon, or does their inclusion actually change the mission?   How much progress has been made in restructuring the government, coordinating inter-agency activities, and sorting out responsibliities and authorities?   Can the NSC play the leadership role required to balance this out? 
  3. Is it time to abandon the "war of ideas"? We've spent so much time and effort over the last eight years fretting about how to fight AQ's ideas and how to promote moderate Islam.  We should know by now that we (as a government) are really bad at trying to intervene in intra-Muslim debates.  Is it necessary?  Does it even help?  How much?  For instance, if the goal is to discredit the use of violence against civilians -- a good goal -- then it may make more sense to try and drive the kind of societal normative change which delegitimized smoking or child pornography (something about which people with a wide range of different ideas can agree) than to try to promote particular religious "ideas".  More broadly, the "resistance"  which I mentioned above is generally non-ideological, rooted far more in perceived political grievances than in the nuances of Islamist ideology.  What may have been useful in delegitimizing a marginal, radical ideology may have little relevance for responding to a mass-based, political, non-ideological oppositional trend.  But there are nearly a decade now of organizational competencies, budgets, and constituencies for the "war of ideas" -- which won't soon go away.  Are they still playing an appropriate role in the new strategy? 
  4. Does AQ Central matter?   The perennial debate over whether to think about al-Qaeda as a centrally directed organization or as a loosely connected network of like-minded individuals and groups continues.  It will not likely be resolved, since there are elements of both going on.    But for designing CVE strategy, it clearly does matter whether you think that AQC is the key.  So to make this as blunt as possible:  would killing bin Laden, Zawahiri, and the remnants of AQC --- which seems more plausible in the coming months and years -- decisively end, or even decisively transform, the nature of the struggle?  
  5. What to do with non-violent Islamist groups? The argument over how to classify different organizations, movements, and individuals has been going on for years.  While the conceptual understanding of intra-Muslim nuance has grown dramatically over the years, it's not clear to me that clear decisions have been made.  Are non-violent Islamists useful because they embrace demcracy, eschew violence, and compete with AQ for recruits and space, or dangerous because they oppose US foreign policy and spread Islamist identity and ideas?  Should they be engaged with as viable partners, tolerated but not engaged, or treated as part of the problem?  How much should this vary by local circumstance?  It's hard to construct a serious engagement strategy without an answer to this.   And, perhaps of more immediate concern:  what do we expect will happen if these organizations buckle under the weight of repression or pressure, whether in Gaza or Egypt or Jordan or elsewhere? Would this advance or set back American or Western interests, whether in CVE or more broadly?
  6. Can local partners do the job?  I hear a lot of talk these days about Western governments partnering with and helping to build up local Muslim groups which can carry on the fight inside their own communities.  In general, that sounds good -- though nobody should expect that this can be done covertly without serious backlash risks, and there should be no expectations of control.   But I'm also struck by the lessons of democracy promotion and civil society building efforts over the years -- and the limits of all those partnering and capacity building efforts.  The CVE folks should learn those hard-learned lessons. In general, there are only a limited number of local partners with the capacity and willingness to deal with Western governments on these issue.  They often can't bear the weight assigned to them. They may risk their local credibility by partnering with governments.  And they may end up spending more of their time chasing the next government contract than doing the kind of community work which first made them interesting. 
  7. What about human rights?  The GWOT frame tended to encourage a cavalier approach to public freedoms, human rights, and the rule of law in the name of counter-terrorism and security.  It is not clear whether the CVE frame makes the same leap.  After all, a whole of government, long-term approach to CVE should recognize the importance of legitimate, accountable, and transparent governments which deal respectfully with their citizens.  But will that in fact be the case?  The way that many Arab governments have achieved "success" has included a lot of torture, arbitrary indefinite arrest, and repression of all sorts.  Will a CVE paradigm under Obama go along with this or challenge it? 
  8. Is this really a "Long War"?  We've grown used to thinking of this as a "generational struggle" -- but is it?  Does it make more sense to think of this as a transitional moment, in which al-Qaeda and its ideas could be decisively marginalized and rendered politically irrelevant? How would we know if this is a generational or transiational conflict?  What kinds of programs, strategies, and resourcing would each require?
  9. Where are the crucial zones of CVE?   Arguably, the focus is shifting away from Arab heartland -- but to where?   Is it the active combat zones (Iraq, Afghanistan) which consume so much of the Pentagon's budget?  Is it the ungoverned spaces like Yemen or Somalia?  Is it the Muslim communities of Europe?   What do each of these demand -- and should they be brought together under the same conceptual framework?  And what do we absolutely have to do to avoid the most catastrophic, unacceptable outcomes in each:  do we have to bring legitimate governance and health care reform to Yemen? I sure hope not, but if so, where exactly are those resources to come from?   
  10. And finally -- you knew this was coming:  is AfPak central to CVE or marginal?  Does its relative importance justify the ever-growing resource commitment?  Would maintaining the status quo (as opposed to U.S. withdrawal) render AfPak more marginal or more central?  Would escalation render AfPak more marginal or central?  

Lots of questions, some of which I feel have clear answers but a lot that don't.  Enjoy! 

(.... and #11, I suppose:  can we really do well at "combatting violent extremism" when we can't even spell it?  Sorry... )

 

MSBAHARI

9:50 PM ET

November 4, 2009

Point No.5

i do not know why but this point made me feel that the USA is not going to accept political Islam groups or movements.
Let's face, it is just a matter of time before these groups are elected democratically. If there is an election today in Jordan or Egypt Muslims brothers are deemed to win it with large margins.
Look what happened in Algeria when the west turned a blind eye to the win of the Islamic movement.

if the state is not ready to deal with them if they are democratically elected then this will severely damage the west interest in the region and around the world.

 

DRLAKE777

1:23 AM ET

November 6, 2009

Sad but probably true

Unfortunately, I agree. While the US would be well served by accepting political Islamists as legitimate political actors to engage with, I don't see it happening. Even though I suspect Obama would be willing, there are far too many knee-jerk reactionaries in both parties (but especially the Republican party) for that to be a viable option.

 

MSBAHARI

10:34 PM ET

November 6, 2009

It has to Happen!!!

I know it is very hard to see it happening but look at the cost! All dictators in Arab world already played this card to gain the support of USA and west government. "if there is a democracy people will elect Muslim brotherhood, Democracy is not for the ME".
It is true it may serve the benefits of the USA but only for the short term, on the long run this will lead to the cultivation of more radical movement recruitment.

I hope someone is doing the thinking for long term planning for the US.

 

JANBEKSTER

1:46 PM ET

November 5, 2009

The larger picture.

Not only that, one is neither a specialist nor an expert, but one's own spelling leaves a lot to be desired. In any case, I think we have to look at the problem from a larger perspective. I think President Obama took the mantle of the leadership of a super-power which was already, a Middle Eastern and Islamic country geographically. Therefore, I think he is in the dilema of having to work with what is already available there, irrespective of whether what is available is to his liking or not.

He has allies in the region, whose political understanding is variably limited, to what the "Huwaidis" of the Arab and Islamic worlds dictate as proper policy; including repression and intolerance of opposition no matter how mild. So, President Obama has to work with those allied regimes to pursue the interests of the USA as both, a superpower as well as a regional power. Unfortunately, no matter to what extent his words are kind and reflective, ultimately, the close relationship with the "Huwaidis" reliant regimes, cannot but alianate the "Mustapha Mahmoods" and "Ayma Nours" of the region.

The US president may well try to have a middle path between the authorities and the oppositon in the region, but that also is very difficult, because the US is already a country, of the region, and has already made its choices no matter how "distasteful" in order to pursue its own national interest. This will not leed by necessity, to more radicalisation of the non-violent Islamists, and democrats in the region, but will not gain President Obama their confidence either. In a sense, just like in any state in the region, the opposition is suspicious of the authorities, it will continue to be suspicious of the USA.

Is it possible that President Obama is likely to pursue ideals rather than realistic policies in the region?. Well, I haven't seen a Middle Eastern country do that yet, and I don't think the USA as the country in the region will do that either. But there is one chance still for the USA, where it can show some difference because it can afford to, and that is allow for the possibility of power sharing formulae where it is heavily involved, to provide some hope that, laying down arms can be benefitial at the end of the day.

khairi janbek.paris/france

 

DEPETRIS@WORDPRESS.COM

8:15 PM ET

November 5, 2009

Here is another question

Here is another question worth considering- although compared to previous questions, it is much more specific:

Can the United States effectively combat violence extremism by simply pouring money into a country's security establishment?

Pakistan is perhaps the most visible example. The last eight years have brought about billions upon billions of American dollars into the hands of Pakistan's civilian government; designed to enhance their ability to curb corruption, and battle Islamic extremism within their own borders. In fact, the President recently signed into a law a new initiative that gives $7.5 billion over the next 5 years to Islamabad...once again to mitigate the effects of terrorism.

Can the United States really expect gains through this one-dimensional approach, especially when the problem of violent political extremism is so complicated and has so many origins? Perhaps Washington should donate more to the general population, improving education and giving ordinary Pakistanis hope in the political process. Easier said than done, of course. But it may be necessary to radically change U.S. policy in this area.

There is more to curbing terrorism than killing terrorists. It also means boosting the prospects for ordinary civilians, thereby providing them an alternative to picking up arms against their own government. The Iraqi experience is a relatively good example of this theory; provided with the money that they so desperately need, insurgents tend to switch sides and alter their violent ways. Funny how it somehow almost always comes down to financial obligations and feeding one's family.

http://depetris.wordpress.com

 

JANBEKSTER

10:36 PM ET

November 5, 2009

re-Here is another question.

As your good self is aware, the USA is a country with its own interests, therefore, it is neither a charity nor a benevolent association. Also as aptly observed by your good self, the permutations are endles for the reasons people carry arms against their own authorities, and the social misery may well be, just one facett of a multi-facetted phenomenon called terrorism.

Maybe the USA will or will not win the counter-terrorism war, by pouring billions into the security efforts of allied countries; such as Pakistan for instance, but the real question is, what is likely to happen, if the USA stops subsidising those security efforts?. Isn't it likely that a country like Pakistan for instance, may fall into mini-civil wars that may leed eventually into a major war involving many countries in the region, including the super-powers?. That is if we don't even mention the Pakistani nuclear weapons.

Mind you, I would agree that, those former insurgents whom wish to switch sides, should be financially induced to do so at every opportunity. Even it would be better, if they can be financially induced to carry arms against their former brethren.

khairi janbek.paris/france

 

THERANTINGMODERATE

10:55 PM ET

November 6, 2009

In regards to your question

In regards to your question about the fate of Pakistan should we stop subsidising security forces there, isn't it also likely that a mini-civl war could just as easily start DESPITE our flow of cash going into security force coffers? And isn't it just as possible as well that a regional war could break out regardless of our immediate involvement?

I tend to think we put a little too much stake in our involvement, and its impact, overseas. That's not to say I believe we should necessarily stop altogether in any form. The solution to the problems posed by you are complex and one would have to be very disingenuous to believe that either our involvement or lack thereof will necessarily be the key to positive or negative developments in the region.

I guess my point is, it's very hard to say what will happen regardless of what we do. Our ideas could help, or they could produce backlash. And that's precisely the problem with debates like these, no one can really have a 100% workable theory to solve all of these extremely complex problems despite our best efforts to search for such theories.

 

JANBEKSTER

4:06 PM ET

November 10, 2009

re-In regards

In a random universe anything and everything is possible. But up till now, the support of the US going to the Pakistani security seems to be working. So if it is not broken, there is no need to fix it.

khairi janbek.paris/france

 

DRLAKE777

1:34 AM ET

November 6, 2009

Good question

That is definitely one of the questions that needs to be asked. I can't imagine the answer is anything but "no", which leads to the next question, "OK, so now what?" Back to Lynch's list...

 

NUR AL-CUBICLE

3:08 AM ET

November 6, 2009

Why am I reminded of that

Why am I reminded of that Goldwater declaration: "[Violent] Extremism in the defense of [....] is no vice"? Sounds like AQ's words to live by.

A friend of mine observed that here in the United States in the early 20th century, religion, personified by people such as Woodrow Wilson, was able to tame the corruption of the Gilded Age. As we cannot expect the masses to rally to Kierkegaard, Islam in some form or another will have to be the driving force against plutocracy and corruption. What it needs are the heros to do it and the institutions to sustain it.

 

JANBEKSTER

10:23 AM ET

November 6, 2009

re-Why am I...

I think if the masses rally to Kierkegaard, they will find out that their existence is a category, relating to their individuality and not a universal ideal. As for Islam, it does actually exist in one form or another in many countries of the world, unless, of course your good self is not talking about those countries.

khairi janbek.paris/france

 

THERANTINGMODERATE

11:53 PM ET

November 6, 2009

Interesting....

I've been wondering about the first question you pose as well lately, the GWOT was framed incredibly poorly for a myriad of reasons... one of the most glaring being that it was framed as a war that was necessary to secure Western peoples and interests which unfortunately ignored the reality that terrorism poses a far bigger threat to people in the Middle East, South Asia and parts of Africa than it does the West. I understand it's only natural to frame something like this from ones own perspective, but you can't hope to rally other people to your cause if you're not going to articulate why they need to join you in clear, and (com)passionate, terms (Rather than the for us or against rhetoric of the Bush Administration). As well, declaring war on a tactic, ragardless of how heinous said tactic is, is a ridiculous idea. Yes, it may galvanize some support at home (and we seem to be such a militaristic society that we use the term "war" for just about anything these days), so long as things go smoothly and don't last too long of course, but the very invocation of the term "war" in this instance can be used against you by the very people you hoped to marginalize. So I'm in agreement that Obama's toning down of the GWOT rhetoric is a good thing. And I think he's done a better job highlighting why people in these countries should join us. But he has yet to really frame this as coherently as I was hoping he would. Obviously, that's not an easy task so I can't say that anyone else would do a better job just yet. However, one only has so long to make a case for something before people tune out.

I think your comments in reards to the idea of "CVE" are spot on as well. The term "Violent extremism" is vague and could be used in so many different (and wrong headed) ways, by both those at home and those abroad, that it could essentially produce the same type of backlash the GWOT saw. This kind of extends to your question in number 3 about whether the "war of ideas" is counterproductive. I tend to think outside pressure can have ample negative consequences in this case, if only because people in any "in group" tend to be very suspicious of outsiders trying to dictate to them what they need to change in their beliefs. That's perfectly natural and something we should be taking into consideration when asking ourselves whether or not its even possible for foreigners with little personal connections to a region can actually change entire belief systems (I of course find that idea naive, but I think if more people asked themselves... say, how they would feel if Muslims from the Middle East were lecturing Christians in the US about their need to change core beliefs their societies have held for decades or even centuries, then more people would likely come to the same conclusion that many of us have).

In regards to AQC, I doubt killing any of the blood cadre would change much. Bin Laden's relevance, and that of his loyalists that comprise the rest of AQC, has slipped quite a bit in the last few years. And while they may give some orders to affiliates and other branches, if we're looking at this from the vague and possibly ill fated "war of ideas" approach then we have to admit that no matter who dies from that organization, their ideology will live on in one form or another because plenty have taken up their cause who have little or no connection to AQC outside of the more symbolic connection of ideological brotherhood (and of course, we can expect their affiliates to cannonize them as martyrs very publicly at some point if their death or capture should occur in the near future).

In regards to including or excluding Islamist political movements, I am of the opinion we should encourage the former on all accounts. I've always operated under the(albiet somewhat uneducated) assumption that including Islamist political movements makes it much harder for them to sit back and collect political capital by exploiting their grievances due to their (real or imagined) recollections of being demonized, subjugated and left out of the political establishment, which may leave less room for them to foment a violent uprising should they be inclined towards violence (This is of course means I'm speaking less of the non-violent movements you mention... although, with any revolutionary movement, including non-violent Islamist movements which seem to be generally of a revolutionary flavor, there is a possibility that violence could occur given the atmosphere revolutionary movements tend to introduce). Essentially, I view including them as giving them MORE responsibility for their own communities, which tends to make it a little harder to engage in the type of behaviors they could engage in outside the system. That's not to say such a strategy would be without its problems, there are so many variables that drive movements to act the way they do and do the things they do that its doubtful many (if any) people could forumlate a strategy that would include them all and thus be fullproof. But it seems excluding quite a few of these movements hasn't done us much, if any, good.

 

BIG_TURK

9:45 PM ET

November 19, 2009

Great Posting

There's been a collective moment of clarity over the last week about the disastrous course of the attempt to get to serious peace talks between Israel and the Palestinians. Hillary Clinton's comments about the Israeli "unprecedented" positions and the prospect of En iyi Yatirim starting talks without a settlement freeze have thrown people into paroxysms of premature postmortems. I don't think her comments actually changed very much -- the dynamic was bad before she came to the region, it's still bad. At least now maybe the shock of this sudden view of the abyss will concentrate people's minds and get them to try something new.

 

BIG_TURK

9:47 PM ET

November 19, 2009

Great Posting

it clearly wiivideos does matter whether you think that AQC is the key. So to make this as blunt as possible: would killing bin Laden, Zawahiri, and the remnants of

 

Marc Lynch is associate professor of political science and international affairs at George Washington University.

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