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Two recent arguments about the impact of the rising anti-Islam trend in the U.S. -- from the Stupid!Storm around the Manhattan mosque to the lunacy of "national burn a Quran day" -- on the Arab world strike me as not quite right.  Last week, Bill Kristol cited the translation of a column by Saudi TV station al-Arabiya director Abd al-Rahman al-Rashed downplaying the relevance of the mosque as evidence that the argument should be over.  Meanwhile, several recent articles claim that the mosque had become the #1 topic of discussion on jihadist forums.   Both are wrong, in different ways.  Most Arab columnists agree with the argument that the anti-mosque movement will badly harm Arab and Muslim views of the United States, contra Rashed, but there isn't as much active discussion of it in the forums as you'd expect.  That isn't a reason to relax, though.  The impact is likely to be felt not so much on extremists, whose views about America are rather fixed, but on the vast middle ground, the Arab and Muslim mainstream which both the Bush and Obama administrations have recognized as crucial both for defeating al-Qaeda and for achieving broad American national interests. And that mainstream, not the extremists themselves, is where our attention needs to be focused. 

A closer look at Arab mainstream media and jihadist forum debates shows what I mean.  A scan of the major op-ed pages quickly reveals that Rashed is very much a minority voice in the unfolding Arab debate.  Rashed's column caught the attention of anti-mosque activists such as Kristol, because it suited their needs.  But if Kristol really wants Americans to take their cues from Arab columnists, here's a more representative sample of commentary over the last few days:

  • Jamil al-Nimri, a Jordanian liberal writing for al-Ghad, who writes that the backlash against the mosque has unleashed a wave of bigotry and hate, at the expense of the intended message of an enlightened and tolerant Islam. 
  • Mohammed al-Hammadi, an Emirati writer for al-Ittihad, who describes the mosque as a moment for America to choose whether it truly believes in freedom.
  • Abd al-Haq Azouzi, a Moroccan writing for al-Ittihad, who reverses the familiar question to ask "why do they hate us?," and warns that those cynically manufacturing the issue for political benefit are unleashing an uncontrollable wave of hatred.
  • Abdullah al-Shayji, a Kuwaiti writing for al-Ittihad, who sees the mosque battle as a fundamental test of the place of Muslims in America and fears rising Islamophobia.
  • Ragheda Dergham, writing in al-Hayat, warns that the campaign against the mosque threatens Islamic moderation.
  • Manar al-Shourbji, in Egypt's al-Masry al-Youm, reflects that the campaign against the mosque demonstrates that the good intentions of the mosque's founders were not enough in the face of rising anti-Islam extremism in America.

And this is just from the last few days.  The most positive spin on the mosque crisis is actually that it's all politics.  A number of columnists argue that it is just  Republicans cynically using the Islam issue to hurt Obama and help their re-election campaign.   But even those columnists generally go on to worry that such forces, once unleashed, are hard to control.   Fortunately, the courageous remarks of figures such as Michael Bloomberg have also received prominent coverage --- something which gives moderate figures something to grasp onto when arguing against the extremists.   And that's what they need, both for their own sake and for ours.  

Meanwhile, the mosque has barely registered on the major jihadist forums which I frequent -- yesterday, on the leading al-Shamoukh forum, it was not mentioned in the headline of a single one of the first ten pages of posts (more than 500 in all).  There have been a few threads, as Evan Kohlmann has claimed, but it's a fairly minor theme within the forum debates ("Burn a Quran Day" has actually had more traction than the NY mosque thus far, actually).   Certainly no triumphalism about how they'll soon have a monument to victory, as you hear so often out there on the American lunatic fringe. I have no doubt that al-Qaeda and like-minded extremists will eventually use the anti-mosque movement in their propaganda, since it so perfectly fits their narrative of a West at war with Islam --- the very narrative which both the Bush administration and the Obama administration worked so hard to combat over the last few years.  I suspect that the participants in the forums aren't talking about it much is that it simply confirms what they already believe about America.  They'll use it, but don't see much to argue about. 

That's the opposite of the Arab mainstream, which is vigorously arguing about what it means for the future of America's relationship with Muslims --- both in America and in the world.  Where the anti-mosque movement and escalating anti-Islam rhetoric is really resonating is with the Arab mainstream --- that vast middle ground which had hoped that the election of Barack Obama would mark a real change from the Bush administration but have grown increasingly disappointed.   The mosque issue has been covered heavily on Arab satellite TV stations such as al-Jazeera, and the images of angry Americans chanting slogans and waving signs against Islam have resonated much like the images of angry Arabs burning American flags and denouncing U.S. policy did with American viewers after 9/11.   The recent public opinion surveys showing widespread hostility towards Islam among Americans have also gotten a lot of attention. 

It all contributes to the ongoing deterioriation of their residual hope in Obama's ability to bring about meaningful change. It's confirming the worst fears of too many mainstream Arabs and Muslims, and thus providing fodder for the extremists who hope to exploit that atmosphere. It's become a cliche to say so, but it's true:  by fueling the narrative of a clash of civilizations and an inevitable war between Islam and the West, this unfortunate trend is empowering extremists on all sides and weakening moderates.  That's exactly the dynamic which I warned about here and in my recent Foreign Affairs article, and it's one which counter-terrorism professionals and public diplomacy specialists alike understand needs to be broken before it's too late. 

 

GUYVER

1:09 AM ET

August 26, 2010

"clash of civilizations"

Muslims never saw their grievances with the US as a religious or cultural "clash" since their complaints centered around US foreign policy. But some sought to strip those grievances of any legitimacy by painting Muslims as irreconcilable, irrational and engaged in a "clash of civilizations". They have succeeded in the sense that the word "Muslim" is now an insult and charge that must be defended against and refuted.

 

AMOSYARKONI

2:54 PM ET

August 26, 2010

An AIPAC conspiracy - Aravay

Someone had to be stupid enough to claim this is an AIPAC conspiracy, and that person was you Aravay. Congratulations, come get your prize for leading insane anti-semite of the year.

 

JABELES

5:17 PM ET

August 26, 2010

nice job

way to play into racist stereotyping and Jewish conspiracy theories in order to demonstrate what it means to be tolerant.

 

F1FAN

1:40 PM ET

August 26, 2010

It's a well known fact

That religious Freedom in the US only extends to Christians and Jews, if you are anything else prepare to be marginalized.

 

BETZ55

2:14 PM ET

August 26, 2010

And so when the neocon idiots

And so when the neocon idiots try to convince us that Iran 'hates' us by demonstrating and burning the American flag, just remember how insane we look to other countries around the world, demonstrating against Park 51 and wanting to burn the Koran. The right wingnuts in this country are the party of no, hate, racism, and bigotry, no better than than anyone else.

No doubt since the ADL was swatted down, they and AIPAC have called out their sayanim to make sure there are enough 'protesters' too.

The xenophobic disrespect Americans have shown for another monotheistic world religion is completely unwarranted and inappropriate.

And if this moronic open dissent is ultimately successful, let’s start a movement to have Christian churches shut down within the vicinity of where the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building once stood and a Christian terrorist Timothy McVeigh bombed.

And one more thing. Alwaleed bin Talal is Murdoch’s partner in Fox News and is the person fox news is accusing of funding Park 51.
This is delicious isn’t it? Oh, the irony and stupidity of Faux News. Again.

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mon-august-23-2010/the-parent-company-trap

 

AMOSYARKONI

2:57 PM ET

August 26, 2010

Another AIPAC conspiracy and a

link to Jon Steward at the Daily Show combined in one posting. I was wrong about Aravay being the dumbest person on this board, Betz55 you now take the cake!

 

BETZ55

3:25 PM ET

August 26, 2010

Thanks!

Love to see my name in print!

Resorting to character assassination, personal attacks, or unwarranted accusations is always the strategy of cheesy Israeli apologists.

Who cares what you think? But thanks for the shoutout!

 

JABELES

5:31 PM ET

August 26, 2010

however bad these demonstrations are

at least we haven't attacked embassies because of cartoons or murdered dozens because of a beauty pageant. even at our worst, which isn't pretty, our intolerance is beyond comparison to what you can expect in Islamic countries where it's largely illegal to build churches and synagogues. but is that fact, and those mentioned above, decreasing western moderates? If this event is enough to diminish moderates in the Muslim world--a line of nonsense i keep reading--then are they really moderates?

i assume the project will go forward, which is fine, but let's not forget that Imam Rauf suggested the ground breaking ceremony would occur on Sept 11, 2011, exactly ten years after the attacks. if it's not about victory or fostering misunderstanding why didn't he schedule it for Sept 10 or 12? And to now pretend that it has nothing to do with it...please.

As for you Betz55, you're just another anti Jewish conspiracy theorist exhibiting and then complaining about racism.

 

BETZ55

10:31 PM ET

August 26, 2010

To JABELES - Thanks !

So? Like I said, love to see my name in print. And your just another cheesy israeli apologist who can't think of anything else to do except smear. Your all alike when your back is up against the wall.

But thanks for the shoutout!

 

AEHSAN

4:36 PM ET

August 26, 2010

US / Jihadists = 2 sides 1 coin?

Muslims won't run to be jihadists due to this Park 51 incident but we won't exactly trust teh US either. Its more like the US is now equated to the jihadists - both preach hatred and a clash of civilizations, both kill civilians indiscriminately, both torture etc. So from a practical everyday pov whats teh difference? Key point Pakistan, evryone mentions how the population there views the US extremely unfavorably, which is true, but also the polls also show the jihadists are viewed almost equally negatively. What the long terms effects of the US being equated with Jihadists if any, I don't know.

 

JABELES

5:42 PM ET

August 26, 2010

just a reminder folks

...but the US was hated by Muslim extremists well before Sept 11, 2001, the Iraq war, the Afghanistan War, etc. And whatever good we may have done in Bosnia and Herzegovina to help end ethnic cleansing (which, by the way, was not forthcoming from any Muslim countries) was apparently irrelevant. in any case, i would view unfavorable ratings from Pakistan as a compliment.

 

AEHSAN

7:15 PM ET

August 26, 2010

Extremists don't count but the mainstream does

Extremits don't count but the issue is the mainstream whcih was neutral about the US before is now starting see the US as hostile. This will have long term effects and thats the question. Oh and the usual Pak bashing - hows the Afghan war working out for you? Either way its a bit callous to write off 160MM people, but then again I am not too surprised. I am sure you have very solid reasons why - can we atleast not agree that its still a bad thing? Fact is the war was about always about hearts and minds and the net effect is its been lost. Optimistic outlook is that the Extremists have lost. Pessimistic - so has the US. The US can recover though and that to me is a sign/way for the future.

 

HUCKLEBERRY_FINN

11:59 AM ET

August 28, 2010

This anti-Islam hysteria

This anti-Islam hysteria didn't bring any good to both sides. Sadly enough even oh-so-tolerant Europe faces that problem now (proof —http://tinyurl.com/2vkuorg). Nationalistic movements are on the rise all around Europe. Doesn't that remind you of anything?

I'm not trying to depict the arabs as the victims, as it happened to Jews before the WWII but it wourd really be better to put some rational core into all that.

 

Marc Lynch is associate professor of political science and international affairs at George Washington University.

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